Lancia Thesis ( 2004 )
A car for the new élites
Even the car market has an exalted upper circle. This is made up of the higher-segment, big élite saloons into which all Manufacturers pour the cream of their technology and design skill. In Europe, these account for a little over one million cars per year from a few prestigious brands.
As you can imagine, this usually tends to be a stable sales band and conservative in its tastes. The fast social and cultural changes that have affected our society in recent years, however, have led to changes even within this sector. All market surveys confirm a persistent demand for technology that is less soul-less than that currently on offer. A requirement can be discerned for warmth, higher levels of craftsmanship, greater attention to the individual.
These trends are indicative of a more general movement to re-appropriate the art of living, a more personal and intimate form of gratification and a quest to be at peace with oneself. This is the philosophy that represents the feelings of the new managerial class.
Lancia's venerable chromosomes make it better than other brands at interpreting this new world of luxury. Its background helps it offer a full response to the needs of customers who know about technology but are also aware of the value of tradition; who demand product substance but also exclusivity and prestige.
Lancia offers such motorists the Thesis, a new car designed to meet new needs. A car that brings some interesting new features to the world of big saloons. Such as the exclusivity of a typically Italian touch of class and stylistic creativity. Such as the product substance offered by technology that is all-pervasive yet invisible and serves the motorists discreetly while anticipating requirements. Such as the ability to assure the car's owner maximum well-being when he or she is at the wheel (handling, control, safety, driving satisfaction) and also when experiencing the car as a passenger (noiselessness; diffused air, light and music; sophisticated telematics).
2004 Lancia Thesis
In other words, the Lancia Thesis offers well-being, substance and exclusivity.
Tradition and innovation
Lancia drew deeply on its own reserves of creativity and production ability to bring into being a car that will express a lifestyle while simultaneously relaunching the brand in the prestigious élite big European saloon sector. The same proud lineage has brought us cars that have written the history of the motor car. Such as the Lambda, the first car in the world with a load-bearing body and independent front suspension. Or the Aprilia that boasted a Cd of 0.47 at the beginning of the Thirties when the average value for cars of the period was 0.60. Or the Aurelia, that concealed beneath its bonnet the first narrow V six cylinder engine ever fitted to a standard production car. Cars that shine because they represent a blend of contemporary technological innovation and the sheer quality of an unmistakably élite lifestyle.
The Thesis is Lancia's own inimitable interpretation of the big prestige saloon theme. Without forgetting the stylistic and philosophical lesson learned from the Dialogos, the biodynamic car that was a much fêted testing ground for a new way of envisaging the car: by imagining a 'stress-free drive', for example, while the passenger compartment was intended as an 'ideal microclimate' and 'living room'.
Now comes the turn of the Thesis, which can be seen as the Dialogos transposed to accommodate industrial manufacturing constraints. Because the model is at the top of the Lancia range, for an élite brand like Lancia it is bound to be the one that best represents and interprets Brand values: design dynamism, high-tech product, absolutely élite comfort and sophisticated solutions.
Stand out from the crowd, with a dash of Italian style
On the stylistic front, the Lancia Thesis is marked by an emotional elegance that immediately rejects rationalism and visual sparseness in favour of a large, tall grille and diamond-shaped headlamps. The headlamps, separated by the grille, are built into sculpted, shapely wings (the dip between bonnet and side is a nod to cars of the Thirties and Forties).
The result is a sculpted yet integrated front end without the normal protruding bumpers and the consequent overhang from the car body that divides the front into 'above' and 'below'. The imposing, distinctive motif is destined from now on to become an obligatory reference point, a new family look for Lancia designers to follow.
The Lancia Thesis side also features clean, uncluttered form. The side line starts from the front wing and runs unbroken along the car's waistline from headlamp to tail-light. It helps reinforce the limousine effect by lengthening the car. This view gives a better idea of the car's long wheelbase (2.80 metres) and generous dimensions (4.88 metres in length and 1.83 in width), essential features when plenty of interior passenger space is required.
The car's well-proportioned and striking rear end features an integral bumper that leaves room for vertical body traits. Most important of these are the Flaminia-like fins that set off the subtle and innovative led tail-lights to perfection. By day, these look like two understated chrome decorations; by night they are red and orange stripes that make the car unique and immediately recognisable even on the motorway.
The Lancia Thesis passenger compartment is luxurious, roomy and protective. The resulting space provides a most relaxing setting for passengers, whose knees encounter only soft surfaces covered in luxurious materials. A big central column under the facia on the middle seems to support and divide the two front seats, keeping them apart to leave room for a high, wide arm rest. This means that both front occupants can use the armrest simultaneously without getting in each other's way.
The technological brain of the Thesis is also housed in the same place: a seven-inch colour screen flanked on either side by switches for direct access to the various menus and completed underneath by a row of reconfigurable keys.
The Lancia Thesis seats also represent the current state of the art in terms of comfort and ergonomics because we solicited the help of Professor Dal Monte, the internationally-renowned physiologist. The front seats feature rounded, soft shapes that ensure maximum comfort and the aesthetic appeal of a luxury environment. Double, riveted seams add a touch of craftsmanship and elegance, while saddle-shaped head-restraints are unmistakably Italian in style. In the Comfort version, the Lancia Thesis front seats are fully electrically-adjustable and also offer intriguing and revolutionary functions such as ventilation, heating, adaptivity and massage. Rear seat passengers will also enjoy all the comfort and gratifying well-being of their own living rooms. The new Lancia flagship offers one of the best rear passenger room ratings in the segment.
A space is also reserved for customers who do not drive their Thesis themselves and must be able to travel with sufficient style and dignity in the rear. Hence the need for individual air outlets and the possibility of choosing an air temperature and flow that may be different from that imposed at the front. A big fold-way armrest in the middle of the back seat can house a remote control that is used to adjust the TV and Hi-Fi system.
The top-quality materials include leather, ultra-soft Poltrona Frau leather, Alcantara and wool, an unusual trim material that brings to mind the famous Lancia cloth trim of the past. These cover the seats and a central band that encircles the passenger compartment without a break. The quality of this trim is set off to perfection by an understated insert made out of wood: an open-pored untreated mahogany in which the natural grain is apparent. Lastly, the central console and tunnel are made out of pressure cast magnesium.
The result is an environment made out of top-quality, warm, exclusive materials - an emotionally involving place where top-quality materials have been chosen for their tactile and acoustic qualities to create a multisensorial whole that represents the final frontier of the Lancia world.
The concept of comfort has been superseded by that of well-being, in the sense of mental and physical gratification. When aboard the Lancia Thesis, well-being is truly multisensorial, because the air and sound (as well as the light) always reach occupants in an indirect manner without ever being over-invasive. Air is diffused slowly from a broad band of micropores located in front of the front passenger. Sound comes from the 11 speakers that form part of the ultra-sophisticated Bose® Hi-Fi system.
On-board instruments and controls are naturally analogue and feature large, round, clear, 3-D faces with numbers that apparently float in space (the reference is to the Aurelia and the Flaminia, two cars that play an important role in brand history). One glance provides all the information required. When the lights come on, the dashboard combines the simplicity of the past with ultra-new electroluminescent technology that makes the instruments easier to read by setting them against a soft blue background. Similar care has gone into the courtesy lights that offer functionality - with spot lights that come on and light a specific area so that passengers can read or work - and also an indirect, diffuse light that adds three-dimensionality and makes the interior look more pleasing by night.
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LANCIA Thesis 2001 - 2009
The need for an executive car in its lineup made the Lancia launch the Thesis in 2001. It was based on the Dialogos concept car. But the series model was far from the prototype.
Lancia gave the world vehicles such as Stratos or the Delta, cars that wrote pages in the motorsport history. The Italian brand had some luxury vehicles in the past, so it wasn't that much stranger to the premium segment.
The Italian designers started the car with one of the most controversial frontal fasciae from the car industry in 2001, with two odd-shaped headlights and a grille that looked like a shield. The grille was fine, and everybody understood it. The rear of the car, with two vertical taillights, was highly appreciated. The middle though was just too bland.
The Dialogos concept-car had a wooden floor. Nobody expected to have that on a series model and the Thesis had a conventional floor but it kept the wood theme for the center console, door trims, and dashboard. The instrument cluster had for rounded dials and a color display in the middle, for the on-board computer. The infotainment system featured navigation, radio-CD, and AUX-in. It was a different interior than what Audi, Mercedes-Benz or BMW offered at that time.
Developed with its own platform and aluminum suspension on both ends, the Thesis was too expensive to enter in competition with the Ford Mondeo, but it was too far from the performance point of view to keep up with any premium car-manufacturer. Even the top V6 version struggled to get a 0 to 100 kph (0-62 mph) in under 9 seconds.
LANCIA Thesis 2.0L Turbo 6MT FWD (185 HP)
LANCIA Thesis 2.4L 6MT FWD (170 HP)
LANCIA Thesis 3.0L V6 5AT FWD (215 HP)
LANCIA Thesis 3.2L V6 5AT FWD (230 HP)
LANCIA Thesis 2.4L JTD 6MT FWD (150 HP)
LANCIA Thesis 2.4L Multijet 5AT FWD (185 HP)
LANCIA Thesis 2.4L Multijet 6MT FWD (170 HP)
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Lancia Thesis Reviews
2001 lancia thesis emblema 2.0 turbo from greece.
A big, fast, reliable diamond
Nothing up to now. The car is most reliable.
It is a unique kind of car for unique people, that's why this car is rare, like a big diamond.
Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes
Review Date: 26th February, 2006
2003 Lancia Thesis emblema 3.2 from Sweden
Not much really. I am really happy about my Lancia Thesis: my first italian car ever. Also I hope that Lancia get the success it deserves in terms of sale. My Thesis has never let me down it goes very well and it is both very luxurious and fast. Vell done Lancia.
Review Date: 22nd November, 2005
2004 Lancia Thesis 2.4 emblema 2.4 jtd from France
A luxurious great car from Lancia
This has to be one of the most reliable cars I have ever owed. It has got great comfort. It is beatifull built and so on.
Would buy another one tomorrow.
A luxurious great car from Lancia.
Review Date: 17th June, 2005
2004 Lancia Thesis from Spain
The best car of the world!!!
It has had some electronic problems, which you know are probably normal for a luxury car. There have been no other problems which is normal for a new car.
It's a very powerful, fast, Italian car if you want a great car, better than BMW or Mercedes-Benz buy this car.
I have a Lancia EMBLEMA with 3.0L Engine and its like a Porsche but bigger and more luxurious inside. If you specify the CONNECT system you will get the best from this car. In my opinion, Lancia is the best car in the world.
Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Don't Know
Review Date: 28th November, 2004
2004 Lancia Thesis JTD 20V Emblema 2.4 JTD from Portugal
In 4 year I will buy another!
So far nothing wrong with the car.
I bought the right car for the wrong reason: I had a Lancia Kappa before this one.
Now I love it! And I save money any km I run: 7lt/100km for this kind of car (with AC always on) it's great.
The best car I ever seat in and beautiful too.
Review Date: 9th November, 2004
13th Jan 2009, 16:02
Thank you for your honest opinion. I always lowed cars that are not to commercial and Thesis is like perfect for me.
I believe that Thesis is perfect for me and will be mine in 2009/2010. I only analyzed which engine to choose but now I now it will be 2.4 JTD.
Best regards from Banja Luka!
2004 Lancia Thesis Emblema 2.4 JTD 20V from Slovenia
A great masterpiece of a car
This is an excellent car, very well built, and equipped with best materials.
It is very comfortable and luxurious and it is really worth of the amount you must pay for it.
Design is something special, but very elegant and smooth.
All the electronics work perfectly.
People who are buying the cars of the same class are really missing a lot if they do not look at Lancia Thesis.
Review Date: 22nd August, 2004
2nd Mar 2006, 02:16
I am ready to by a Lancia Thesis 3.0 V6 215 HP as a successor of my Kappa 2.4 20V 175 HP. Let say that I need second option or suggests of the owners. My major doubt relate to fuel consumption and automatic gear box.
Does it really 20 liters in the city conditions or even more? What about cold start, how much engine need time for warming up to the normal temperature? Does it Emblema pack include everything what it is written in a catalogue (in the serial Emblema option)?
Lancia said that beside oil and filter exchange after each 20.000 km, first service will be at the 100.000 km. It is very similar what I have done with Kappa (each 10.000 km and after 120.000 km or in age more than 36 months have to be done big engine service...). Finally, this engine is a known from the Alfa 164 and Kappa 3.0 V6. What makes difference and how is reliable?
For my cost-benefit analysis I would appreciate very objective information. I hope that will be my 3rd Lancia, but this model is much more expensive than was a Kappa as brand new car. Need to say more?
Lancia fun from Croatia.
2003 Lancia Thesis 2.4 emblema 2.4 jtd 175 cv from Italy
Beatiful and luxurious
This car is absolutely fantastic. It is though a bit of a flop if we look at the chart sale especially if compared with the germans rivals. It is though indeed a real good luxurious car full of good things. Probably people are put off from the look of it which seems to be not everyone taste: it is a shame since it has been totally reliable and able to carry a family of 5 in abslolute comfort.
Simply Excellent. Shame for the low sale.
Review Date: 4th August, 2004
6th Aug 2004, 01:49
It really is a shame that people wanting a quality car which stands up from the crowd, do not dare to be different and try a Thesis.
2002 Lancia Thesis 2.4 diesel from Germany
Nothing. This car has been very reliable to date.
It is extremely well built with excellent material and great build quality: the problem with this car is that does not sell very well at all. It is a shame because the Thesis is a truly elegant Italian Primadonna.
Beautiful, luxurious, reliable and very rare.
Review Date: 27th April, 2004
Curbside Classic: 2007 Lancia Thesis – PhD In Deadly Sin
Finally found one! Had to go all the way to bloody Japan, but there it is, in front of me, glaring at me with its sad eyes. I hadn’t seen one in probably ten years, but then that’s how long I’ve been out of Europe. Some call this the last Lancia and in many ways, it is. It was also a major bomb that precipitated the marque’s downfall. A true blue Deadly Sin – perfect CC fodder.
It wasn’t possible to get a rear end shot of the Thesis, so here’s a period pic (and a pretty colour!)
It was already evident, by the late ‘90s, that Lancia’s future appeared a lot darker than its past. Ever since Fiat had taken the firm over in 1969, the marque’s essence seemed to have gradually evaporated. Lancias, once known for their workmanship and engineering prowess, were now known for their glitches and rampant rust. Fiat decided to pair Lancia and Autobianchi together, muddying the marque’s image by associating it with city cars. The larger Lancias of the ‘80s and ‘90s were hit-and-miss, sometimes bland and often badge-engineered versions of cheaper Fiats and more interesting Alfa Romeos, always playing second fiddle to someone else.
Yet the Lancia shield still had mystique. Within the Fiat group, some saw how wasteful the conglomerate had been with the marque and sought to revive it. After all, this was the peak retro era. VW were recreating the Beetle as a chic FWD quasi-luxury car, so anything must have seemed possible. Mike Robinson, head of Fiat Centro Stile’s Lancia office, had just designed the Lybra (above) , which was about to go into production on the Alfa 156 platform and usher in the look of big Lancias for the next decade – chromed retro grille, round headlamps, conservative three-box shape (albeit with very rounded edges), simple flanks, thin C-pillar, vertical taillamps.
Just as the Lybra was going into production, Lancia surprised the cognoscenti by unveiling the Dialogos at the 1998 Turin Motor Show. This was a clear foreshadowing of the new big Lancia, though it remained a show car. Several features never made it to the final Thesis, such as the swiveling front seats, wood-panelled doors and floors, or the clamshell doors sans B-pillar (an old Lancia tradition) or door handles. The Dialogos was never equipped with an engine, so it was really a pure styling and packaging exercise, but it definitely pointed its sharp grille towards the future of Lancia.
In the year 2000, even before the launch of the Thesis, Lancia made a Thesis-based special for the Vatican. The Lancia Giubileo, a 5.5m long armoured landaulet, reminded most observers of the Dialogos, but this one obviously had an engine (an Alfa 3-litre V6) and generally looked a bit different – the grille was a bit less imposing, the rear end less abrupt. The end of production of the Lancia Kappa, in the summer of 2000, made it even clearer that the time was coming for a new executive Lancia.
The Thesis was finally unveiled at the 2001 Geneva Motor Show, but it took about a year for the cars to actually get to the showrooms. Petrol engine choices included a 2.0 Turbo (185hp) and a 2.4 litre (170hp) 5-cyl., as well as Alfa’s 3-litre (215hp) “Busso” V6, augmented to 3.2 litres and 230hp from 2005. Diesel-wise, the initial proposal was the 2.4 litre JTD 5-cyl. – only good for 150hp, but that was superseded by a 20-valve multijet design that ended up providing 185hp. These drove the front wheels via a either a 6-speed manual or a 5-speed auto.
The Lancia Thesis was never going to have a bespoke engine, of course. And you could be forgiven for thinking the same of the rest of the car, but you’d be wrong. The platform and its sophisticated all-independent multilink suspension, made of aluminium and steel, were all designed and used solely for the Lancia flagship. Fiat invested over €400 million in this titanic enterprise and they were sure it would pay off.
Going by the Kappa’s modest numbers – just over 100,000 units made in eight years – and adding a dollop of optimism, Lancia figured they should be able to shift 13,000 cars per year initially and might need to increase production to 25,000 if sales really took off. After all, the Thesis’ rivals, such as the BMW 5-Series, the Jaguar S-Type or the Mercedes-Benz E-Class, were selling quite briskly in those days. Suffice to say they kind of missed the mark: just under 16,000 Thesis were made from 2002 to 2009. Reality bit, and it bit hard.
So what happened? There are several factors, it seems. One was that the Thesis’ fierce competitors were present in a number of European markets that Lancia had forgone, such as the UK, so Lancia’s flagship was not as widely offered as some. The styling, despite the Italian reputation for elegance and beauty in all things, was not to everyone’s taste either. It seems only the Italians got the point of it – foreign sales were abysmal.
Perhaps a variant or two might have helped, too. Sure, it hardly moved the needle for the Kappa – the K coupé and wagon were for connoisseurs only, in a way – but you never know, sometimes you get luckier with the derivative than the main. It happened before. The sole attempt at a special Thesis was coachbuilder Stola’s limousine, which is not exactly a recipe for volume production. Three limos were made and that was that.
Our feature car, by the way, is a late model Thesis, as evidenced by this “1∞ th ” symbol on the B-pillar. This series was originally launched as a limited edition in 2006 for the 100 th anniversary of Lancia and as a way to peddle the latest amelioration of the Thesis, i.e. the 185hp Diesel coupled with the 5-speed sequential autobox. The only available colours were black and gray – joyful hues perfectly suited to celebrate a birthday.
Above: 1∞th edition (2006) interior; below: 2002 Emblema trim dash
Actually, the fun was all inside. I did not manage to take a photo of our feature car, but here’s what it should look like in these. The red leather coupled with the deletion of the wood veneer gives this interior a bit of a zing that might not be present in the “regular” Thesis.
For whatever reason, the leather in the Thesis I caught was black. The package also included model-specific 18’’ alloys and was available until the end of production, in 2009. It seems the last cars made in 2008-09 were all Diesels, probably because that’s what the Italian markets craved.
I’m guessing that this Thesis might be a 2007 model because I found one for sale in Japan on the web – just the one, which is saying something! – wearing the same colour and from this vintage, but with a petrol engine and no 1∞th package. It’s a shame so few of these were imported here: given how retro-obsessed Japanese car-buyers can be, the Thesis could have made a real splash here if Lancia had given it a go. But I guess this all took place before Fiat renewed their efforts at conquering Japan, after the formation of FCA: Jeeps, Fiat 500s, Maseratis and Alfas are pretty common in Tokyo traffic. Lancias are definitely not, though I have seen older ones on occasion.
As we all know, the death knell of Lancia in general and of the Thesis in particular was the aforementioned Chrysler deal. Fiat found themselves with a surfeit of platforms and bodies to amortize, so they just slapped Lancia shields on various Chryslers. For good measure, FCA also did the opposite, i.e. rebadging Lancia Ypsilons as Chryslers, for certain markets.
Whatever brand equity was still present in the Lancia name evaporated by the early 2010s. Which leaves us with the Thesis as the last big Lancia worthy of the name, a gloriously wasteful and, in the metal, not inelegant executive saloon — in the best and worst tradition of its storied maker, may it rest in peace (is it dead yet?).
Always loved the front and rear end on these cars – shame about the overall proportions though. if they could have just gone a bit more jag XJ on the proportions it could have been a real stunner, and less like a rover 75 with a fancy face on it.
Very nice, specially the ones with with the V6 engines. These are very underrated, uniquely styled cars and personally I have never understood why they sold as badly as they did. I’m seriously considering picking one up. A good, low mileage Thesis can be had here for next to nothing and it’s a bona fide future classic.
Looks very similar to a Kia Amanti
The headlight shape – subtly imitating the grill – has unfortunate echoes of the Docker Daimlers….
Yes, the Thesis must have inspired its Korean cousin… the stubbier, uglier Kia Amanti.
You would almost be tempted to buy this for the interior alone, but then, that front end….yuck. Even the engine choices sound interesting and with an available 6 speed manual transmission, what a car.
Agree. That front end kills it for me.
They got the proportioning right on the Dialogos; what a shame the Thesis didn’t look more like that. Or the Papal Giubileo.
But then, would it have mattered what the car looked like? Did people trust the Lancia brand any more?
If only it had rwd proportions, and maybe weren’t quite as tall. More like an Acura Legend.
An unfortunately styled but interesting car nonetheless, at least it can’t be accused of just blending in with everything else. That gray color with red leather? Yes, that’s a winner. Or even the tan or perhaps a shade darker like the shade Ferrari seems to prefer works too. Black interior seems a waste though, so no loss on you not getting pix of that.
Anyway, all the blather we hear periodically about how Japan is a “closed market” seems to be just that, you’ve demonstrated yet again that even when it comes to fairly late model vehicles, Japan seems to be extremely accommodating and its buyers seem to seek out interesting models from the world over, even some American ones such as Jeeps. Just not large pickups or other stuff that the US otherwise seems to specialize in.
A nicely done 1/43 scale promotional model of the Thesis ended up in my collection after a short trip by my wife to Italy. Of course I’d never seen a real one in my part of the American west so an odd, four door sedan Lancia does stand out a bit among models of more common subjects on an office shelf. I’m glad I have the model.
It does rather look like a bit like a conventional sedan done up by one of the Japanese retro houses.
I remember well when it came out. I liked it, for being refreshingly different. I suspect it may well have been influenced by the Rover 75, although I’m not sure if the timelines would have allowed that. It must have been in the air at the time. Sleek retro.
The styling of the Rover 75 was a development of the ideas in the earlier (1993) 600, especially if looking at Richard Woolley’s concept sketches. By coincidence that has numberplates with ‘Thesix Hundred’ on.
I think it’s actually a shame the Lancia didn’t follow the Dialogos concept more closely for the Thesis; definitely more distinctive, especially the treatment of the flanks and they way the waistline resolves at the rear. Even that rear pillar works with the other shapes.
I had actually seen a Thesis once, in 2014, parked at the Serbian Embassy in Washington, DC. I found it rather odd looking in person, and at first didn’t have the foggiest idea what it was. I haven’t thought about the Thesis much since then, so it’s good to read about its full story here. I will say this: That interior is awfully nice-looking.
Paul’s right. Especially from the side it is a conventional-looking generic sedan. The rear is trimmed nicely but that front and especially those headlights! It looks like they took the styling of the Lybra, which is itself quite generic looking, and made it different for the sake of making it different. Never mind style to match its intended market…just different. It didn’t take much effort, but by then it seemed that whatever was happening at Lancia was “phoned in.” The next step was rebadging the Chrysler 300, a car with an entirely different personality than what Lancia represented. That wasn’t even phoned in…it was texted.
The last relaunch of the brand Maybach , owned by Mercedes Benz , didn’t get lucky numbers either and the marque was dropped. With all the prejudices for Lancia’s parenthood with Fiat, no prejudice can shadow the evidence that this rare Lancia Thesis is an exquisite piece of art design.
That limo has a Maybach look about it, to me.
I always enjoy your writing – clever and fun. This title is one of many great puns from your hand. Maybe the best. I like the Thesis and other oddballs like the C6. I’d be happy to snag one up now, but honestly I would not have considered one when new – that free-falling depreciation trumps adorable quirkiness.
So glad you found one. These are fascinating and I had no idea they had their own bespoke platform. What a boondoggle.
Love the wheels on this one. This is a modern car that can actually pull off two-tone too.
I have a soft spot for these, even if I accept they’re everyone’s taste. A sort of Rover 95, if you like, with some of the kitsch retro Britishness replaced with a softer more contemporary style. That interior is actually pretty neat to me, and probably more to my taste than the Rover.
But isn’t the last real Lancia the Gamma? Maybe? Only Fiat’s money in that one.
I never understood the front of this car, I once read an article it was supposed to be an hommage to the Aurelia B 20 Coupe but I guess they got very, very drunk. There was one burgundy Thesis around where I live, but I have not seen it around for a long time now. The interiors of these cars are fantastic, in a way that nobody can make such a fine interior like an Italian can with smashing finishing, I like these cars better then a Maserati Quattroporte, the Thesis interior bears an air of understated chique. I drove a Diesel and a petrol, I had to bring these to another dealer for my friend who is a Fiat, Alfa, Lancia dealer, they drive ok, handling is as you expect from an Italian car , the blue dials reminded me of my 75 Alfa Giulia Nuova. Thesis is now slowly getting appreciated, like the C6 from Citroën, prices are going up but these two cars are mainly victims of the way large cars are being offered in Europe today, namely by leasing companies and these companies dominate the market and are in love with the German three, simply for reasons of accounting. And that is probably the main reason why the French and Italian limousines have disappeared, lease companies rule the world!
Seems one was a tad previous with one’s appellation, Dr T, but still now, you’ve got your Thesis and as they say, that’s a better fate than never, so one’s congrats to one and all that, what.
400 million smackers for its own bespokery seems all a bit foolhardy. Presumably the consultants who told them the numbers were ticketty-boo graduated to doing US polling now.
“Not inelegant”, you say. Now of course, I’m not about to suggest you have just effused, but you haven’t exactly nose-wrinkled either, as the combination of snoozy blanderry and startling oddity in the pictures might suggest is necessary. Is it one of those things that is not the same when seen in the real world?
Reminds me of an International Lonestar truck.
An interesting read. I had the good fortune to test drive one of these about ten years ago. It was the petrol V6. Looking back I can´t recall anything about the car that would hint at its poor sales. While I reckon the car could have been a little lower, it is an excellent package for driver and passengers so you can see why it is tall. It drives beautifully – you can waft along if you like but if you want to press on the car handles with aplomb. The two problems with the car are that it was too big and costly – it was up against intensely well-developed rivals in the 5 and the E. And Lancia had a reputation as cars that offered sensitive and feelsome controls so you were involved in the driving. The Thesis was too reserved – ideal as a limousine but not as interesting as cars like the Mondeo Mk2 and Peugeot 406 which had well tuned controls. What Lancia needed was a Mondeo/Passat/406 sized car and not something from the D class. And they needed driver apeal rather than well executed anasthæsia. I think it´s a wonderful car for what it is but it was the wrong product for Lancia.
If the moderators don´t mind, here is a link to my wordy test drive article: https://driventowrite.com/2014/05/12/2002-lancia-thesis-3-0-v6-review/
“A very fine job of making the wrong car” – very nice.
For all the great effort, it seems that every single element misses – the beautiful glove box that holds just a ciggy pack – and in any case should have been used in other combinations across other models (or more coherently combined in the one).
As noted above though, it must make them a killer buy presently. Old BM’s and Mercs aren’t going to be any less trouble-prone or costly by now, and freed of its competitive new-car role, it’s got to be far more interesting than them.
One other thing, I also test drove a Lancia Kappa which preceded the Thesis. Though not as finely made (it´s not bad, and it is comfy and distinctive) it is a very convincing balance of ride and handling. It is also handily sized – spacious inside but not bulky. If you don´t mind the fake wood trim and odd plastics it is in many ways a much more convincing car than the Thesis. It also looks incredibly distinctive despite its restrained looks (you´d never mistake it for anything else).
FCA also did the opposite, i.e. rebadging Lancia Ypsilons as Chryslers, for certain markets.
Especially in the United Kingdom and Ireland where Lancia was forever doomed in the 1980s for the prodigious rust manifestation. So, Lancia never recovered from the bad publicity there.
Living in Germany, it was weird seeing second-generation Chrysler 300 rebadged as Thema Executive (with better looking grille), Chrysler Town and Country as Voyager, and Chrylser 200 as Flavia.
Lancia model range has been dwindled to single model and limited to a single market today: Italy-only Ypsilon based on Fiat 500.
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2003 Lancia Thesis 3.2 i V6 24V (230 Hp)
- 3.2 i V6 24V (230 Hp)
- 3.0 V6 (215 Hp)
- 2.4 Multijet 20v (185 Hp) Comfortronic
- 2.4 JTD (175 Hp) Automatic
- 2.4 JTD (175 Hp)
- 2.4 JTD (150 Hp)
- 2.4 20V (170 Hp) Automatic
- 2.4 20V (170 Hp)
- 2.0 20V Turbo (185 Hp)
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Lancia Thesis Thesis 2.4 20v Emblema
- 125 kW (170 CP)
- Vehicul second hand
- - (Proprietar ant.)
- 10,9 l/100 km (mixt) Alte informaţii privind consumul oficial de carburant şi emisiile oficiale de CO2 ale autoturismelor noi pot fi găsite în „Ghidul privind consumul de carburant, emisiile de CO2 şi consumul de curent al autoturismelor noi“ disponibil în toate punctele de vânzare şi la Deutsche Automobil Treuhand GmbH (Registrul Auto German) la www.dat.de.
Lancia Thesis Elegante, Weihnachtssonderpreis bis 20.12.2023!
- 136 kW (185 CP)
- 3 proprietar ant.
- 8,8 l/100 km (mixt) Alte informaţii privind consumul oficial de carburant şi emisiile oficiale de CO2 ale autoturismelor noi pot fi găsite în „Ghidul privind consumul de carburant, emisiile de CO2 şi consumul de curent al autoturismelor noi“ disponibil în toate punctele de vânzare şi la Deutsche Automobil Treuhand GmbH (Registrul Auto German) la www.dat.de.
- 234 g/km (mixt) Alte informaţii privind consumul oficial de carburant şi emisiile oficiale de CO2 ale autoturismelor noi pot fi găsite în „Ghidul privind consumul de carburant, emisiile de CO2 şi consumul de curent al autoturismelor noi“ disponibil în toate punctele de vânzare şi la Deutsche Automobil Treuhand GmbH (Registrul Auto German) la www.dat.de.
Lancia Thesis 3.0 V6 24v Emblema |Bicolore|2e eigenaar|NAP|
- 158 kW (215 CP)
- 13,6 l/100 km (mixt) Alte informaţii privind consumul oficial de carburant şi emisiile oficiale de CO2 ale autoturismelor noi pot fi găsite în „Ghidul privind consumul de carburant, emisiile de CO2 şi consumul de curent al autoturismelor noi“ disponibil în toate punctele de vânzare şi la Deutsche Automobil Treuhand GmbH (Registrul Auto German) la www.dat.de.
- 323 g/km (mixt) Alte informaţii privind consumul oficial de carburant şi emisiile oficiale de CO2 ale autoturismelor noi pot fi găsite în „Ghidul privind consumul de carburant, emisiile de CO2 şi consumul de curent al autoturismelor noi“ disponibil în toate punctele de vânzare şi la Deutsche Automobil Treuhand GmbH (Registrul Auto German) la www.dat.de.
Lancia Thesis 3.0-24V V6 Emblema 61.000km!!
Lancia Thesis 2.4 JTD 20V aut. 100 non marciante
Lancia Thesis Thesis 3.2 V6 24v Ex "FCA"
- 169 kW (230 CP)
- 14,9 l/100 km (mixt) Alte informaţii privind consumul oficial de carburant şi emisiile oficiale de CO2 ale autoturismelor noi pot fi găsite în „Ghidul privind consumul de carburant, emisiile de CO2 şi consumul de curent al autoturismelor noi“ disponibil în toate punctele de vânzare şi la Deutsche Automobil Treuhand GmbH (Registrul Auto German) la www.dat.de.
- 355 g/km (mixt) Alte informaţii privind consumul oficial de carburant şi emisiile oficiale de CO2 ale autoturismelor noi pot fi găsite în „Ghidul privind consumul de carburant, emisiile de CO2 şi consumul de curent al autoturismelor noi“ disponibil în toate punctele de vânzare şi la Deutsche Automobil Treuhand GmbH (Registrul Auto German) la www.dat.de.
Lancia Thesis Emblema
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Lancia Thesis 3.0-24V V6 Emblema
Lancia Thesis Thesis 2.0 turbo 20v Emblema
- 2 proprietar ant.
- 11,1 l/100 km (mixt) Alte informaţii privind consumul oficial de carburant şi emisiile oficiale de CO2 ale autoturismelor noi pot fi găsite în „Ghidul privind consumul de carburant, emisiile de CO2 şi consumul de curent al autoturismelor noi“ disponibil în toate punctele de vânzare şi la Deutsche Automobil Treuhand GmbH (Registrul Auto German) la www.dat.de.
- 264 g/km (mixt) Alte informaţii privind consumul oficial de carburant şi emisiile oficiale de CO2 ale autoturismelor noi pot fi găsite în „Ghidul privind consumul de carburant, emisiile de CO2 şi consumul de curent al autoturismelor noi“ disponibil în toate punctele de vânzare şi la Deutsche Automobil Treuhand GmbH (Registrul Auto German) la www.dat.de.
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Motorizarea lancia thesis.
Modelul de bază vine cu un motor turbo pe benzină de 2,0 litri, care produce 136 kW (185 CP). Peste acesta se află motorul de 2,4 litri și 130 kW (170 CP). Modelul de top Lancia Thesis vine cu un motor V6 și dispune de 170 kW (230 CP), fiind capabil să atingă o viteză maximă de 240 km/h. Pentru variantele diesel Lancia Thesis, producătorul s-a folosit de motoarele Multijet de 2,4 litri de la Fiat, oferite în două trepte de performanță: una de 129 kW (175 CP) și alta de 136 kW (185 CP). Cel mai mic diesel vine cu un motor JTD care produce 110 kW (150 CP).
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